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We’ve been working our arses off. Ben had a couple of drinks, I went over 30 hours without sleep, and then we decided to head to the Interest.co.nz headquarters to meet with Bernard Hickey, where we discussed his killing of the free market god, corporate corruption of the American political system, capitalism gone awry, dirty old Fonterra, and many other interesting subjects. Then we speak with relationship and sex expert Rachel Goodchild about the whole Stephen Fry ‘women only go to bed with men because sex is the price they’re willing to pay for a relationship’ thing, then Morgan introduces some new words to her. Discover that god hates figs, argue about marijuana legalisation, discover that caffeine is incredibly dangerous when taken in ridiculously large quantities, read about the discovery (and consumption) of a new monkey, hope for better on the mobile data front, laugh about data glory holes, rant at the folk that cock-up the trains, and much much more.
Special edition
We got a lot of great material while we were speaking with Bernard Hickey, far too much to fit into the regular show, so we’ll release a special extended interview edition of the show in a few days.
Bit rate
I’ve changed from using 160kbps encoded MP3s in the feed to 96kbps encoding, get in touch if this bothers you (or if you even notice).
Show notes
- Discourse guest Bernard Hickey, journalist and economist, from Interest.co.nz
- The free market god doesn’t exist (NZHerald)
- U.S. National Debt Clock
- Capitalism (Wikipedia)
- Too big to fail (Wikipedia)
- Noam Chomsky: The Corporate Takeover of U.S. Democracy
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement (Wikipedia)
- Tea bag (sexual act) (Wikipedia)
- The Corporate Lobbyists Behind the Tea Parties (HuffPo)
- Sex and the City 2 (IMDb)
- Death of a Salesman (Wikipedia)
- Always be closing (YouTube)
- Crackdown on hedge fund pay (BBC)
- Securities (Wikipedia)
- McQuarie remains a millionaires factory (Brisbane Times)
- ACTA (Wikipedia)
- Pharmac
- US dairy lobby attacks Fonterra ‘monopoly’ (Stuff)
- Plutocracy (Wikipedia)
- South Canterbury Finance complexity ‘beggars belief’ – Reserve Bank (NBR)
- Privatizing profits and socializing losses (Wikipedia)
- Capital Gains Tax
- Working for Families
- Schools’ healthy food rule scrapped (Stuff)
- California Proposition 19 (2010) (Wikipedia)
- Tax and regulate
- Libertarianism
- Prohibition’s failed. Time for a new drugs policy (Guardian)
- Discourse guest Rachel Goodchild, author and relationship expert, from askrachel.co.nz
- Stephen Fry shocks feminists by claming women don’t really like sex (Guardian)
- Stephen Fry’s response (Twitter)
“So some fucking paper misquotes a humorous interview I gave, which itself misquoted me and now I’m the Antichrist. I give up.” - Madonna-whore complex (Wikipedia)
- The Madonna/Whore Complex (AskMen)
- Cruising for sex (Wikipedia)
- NZDating.co.nz
- Attitude magazine
- Lesbian Bed Death (Wikipedia)
- How to Cure Lesbian Bed Death and Keep Passion Burning
- Bill Clinton and the Meaning of “Is” (Slate)
- Dan Savage
- Savage Love
- GGG – Good, Giving, and Game (Wikipedia)
- Pegging
- Findsomeone.co.nz
- A couple of my favourite Stephen Fry docos
- The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive (IMDb)
- Stephen Fry in America (IMDb)
- The Machine that Made Us (IMDb)
- God hates… FIGS?!
- Westboro Baptist Church (I’m not linking to these haters)
- Rally to restore Sanity
- Stephen Colbert
- Jon Stewart
- God Hates Figs
- Marijuana Legalization Ad, played on Daily Show and Colbert Report (YouTube)
- Proposition 8 (2008) (Wikipedia)
- Medical marijuana (NORML)
- Marijuana legalization, drug enforcement and California’s budget (San Diego News Room)
- Harm minimisation (NZ Drug Foundation)
- ‘Strong caffeine products should be banned’ says grandmother of overdose victim (Nottingham Post)
- Why Mormons Don’t Drink Coffee or Tea
- Caffeine Content of Beverages, Foods, & Medications (Erowid)
- Substance dependence (Wikipedia)
- Consent (Wikipedia)
- Salvia Divinorum may have Medical Benefits (NMS Labs)
I’d like to provide a better citation for this, but I don’t have access to the journals from this location. The money quote is “You can give a rat free access to cocaine, give them free access to Salvinorin A, and they stop taking cocaine.” - Salvia Surprise (YouTube)
This is a short film I made in 2008, wouldn’t have been possible without the kind help of Mark Derricutt. - LSD (NZ Drug Foundation)
- LSD Testing (British Troops) (YouTube)
- Woodstock, Brown Acid (Urban Dictionary)
- New Snub-nosed Monkey Discovered, Eaten (National Geographic)
- Seafood consumption – Toheroa (NZHistory.net.nz)
- Fears for toheroa (Stuff)
- Dinosaur skull found in church (Discovery)
- Church of Planets Past (BLDG BLOG)
- Vodafone roaming cut ‘disappointing, unacceptable’ (NBR)
- 2degrees unveils NZ’s ‘largest’ mobile broadband plan – Vodafone responding (NBR)
- Samsung i9000 Galaxy S (The Techsploder)
- VLC for iPhone may get pulled from the App Store — by the developer (CNet)
- Digital Dead Drop
- Geocaching
- USB devices spreading viruses (CNet)
- Waikato stun Auckland, into NPC final (Stuff)
- Eden Park
- Free train to ITM Cup games at Eden Park
- Rail Performance Results
- Shinkansen Reliability (Central Japan Railway Company)
- Electric Car Drives 375 miles at 55mph, Recharges in 6 Minutes
- Jacksonville mom shakes baby for interrupting FarmVille, pleads guilty to murder (The Florida Times-Union)
- Ground coffee helps robots get a grip (Nature)
- Discourse Culture Commentator and Wellington Correspondent Robyn Gallagher
- Lonely Planet takes a shine to Wellington (NZHerald)
- Welly Walks: Walkways iPhone Application
- Fight night in Courtney Place (Stuff)
Urban Dictionary Word(s) of the Week
Morgan wins again, with no definitions correctly guessed this week.
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I disagreed with the whole Stephen Fry bit. He was just making a joke. It was misquoted, and then misquoted as essentially ‘Stephen Fry says women don’t like sex’. Everyone’s over analysing a joke, which is always ridiculous.
I can’t be bothered actually researching my point here… but… after the first episode weren’t you criticised for making some “un-pc” jokes by Paul Henry supporters? Your defense in the following episodes was along the lines of, you were joking, trying to be entertaining… or something along those lines. The guy made a joke about women not wanting sex as much as men… it may not be true, but it’s been a running joke in sitcoms for decades.
The rest of the show was bloody entertaining. Discourse is the best New Zealand podcast*
* Out of a sample size of 2
Hi Heath, we had a bit (which I thought was still in the show, but may have been cut for brevity) where we said something to the effect of “he says he didn’t say it, maybe he didn’t, maybe he was joking”, we really just wanted to talk about the meat of what was reported, rather than whether or not he said it, or whether or not he was serious. Most of what we talk about is really unrelated, he was just a handy jumping off point to talk to Rachel Goodchild. Also note citations and discussion of reality of women’s waning sex drive in relationships.
It’s so hard to get the tone of a comment right; I was nowhere near as annoyed as I perhaps sound. We need a way of indicating tone aside from emoticons ;p
I guess I saw the conversation about sex-drive as a criticism of Steven Fry’s joke, rather than just a discussion about sex-drive leading from that news story. My bad, sorry.
Robyn and Rachel were great, and your show notes as usual, were gold.
To be fair it was a criticism of Fry’s joke as well. Though it wasn’t my intent to make it seem like we thought it was a significant comment, or even really that we had much of a a significant criticism.
A gay man with (apparently) no experience of sex with women, shouldn’t be taken as much of an expert when it comes to female sexuality if he’s speaking seriously, and especially not when he claims to be kidding.
Probably a better tack would have been just to talk about how much of a huge dramatic cry baby he is, constantly quitting and rejoining twitter.
Any progress on the Bernard Hickey full interview?
Great work on the comedy podcast.
Keep ’em coming.
I’m rendering it out as I type, should be on the site in an hour or so.
Great stuff from Bernard, cheers.
Oh, and it looks like it is an ammonite – not the skull of a dinosaur – http://stories-in-stone.blogspot.com/2010/11/duomo-and-dinosaur.html
You can add this to your corrections reel 😉